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Initial Thoughts on the First Debate

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It was a draw.

No question, neither man scored a knockout blow, neither man made an irrecoverable gaffe. Both stuck to their talking points, almost too much. If I had to give the argument to one I’d give it to Kerry and performance to one I’d give that to Bush. I disagree with Kerry’s argument but he defended it better than he has on the stump. Yet Bush was still himself, in charge, and clearly comfortable in his role. Alas, for Kerry, a draw is not good enough. He needed to score a knockout blow in order for this to have an impact. Meanwhile, it was way, way too long. 90 minutes? What were they thinking? The bloggers got bored, imagine the reaction of regular voters.

Also, Kerry needs to watch his arrogance – on more than one occasion he looked like the haughty patrician he is. That’s bad. The President had his moment of irritation, but they didn’t come off the same way.

Meanwhile, for those who are curious, Martinis here at MartiniPundit are always made with gin. Bombay Sapphire or Beefeater, occasionally Boodles. We don’t do Vodka, although we stock it for others who enjoy it.

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September 30, 2004 at 10:28 pm

Liveblogging the First Debate XXXVII

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Bush is emphasizing that we’ll be safe (and with an all-volunteer army, by the way). We’ll spread freedom and a free Iraq and Afghanistan will serve as a powerful example.

About time Bush used some Reaganesque rhetoric: “We’ve climbed the mighty mountain and can see the valley of peace.”

Bush asked for our votes, which Kerry, oddly, did not.

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September 30, 2004 at 10:28 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXXVI

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In his summation, Kerry mentions Vietnam. “I defended this country as a young man, and I will defend it as President of the United States.”

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September 30, 2004 at 10:25 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXXV

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“Oh, I’m a pretty calm guy.”

And the crowd couldn’t stay quiet.

That was the line of the night, and it’s vintage Bush.

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September 30, 2004 at 10:24 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXXIV

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Kerry was there! In Russia! He saw reams of KGB files etc., etc.

Does anyone think this is true given how much Kerry has exagerrated his personal history?

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September 30, 2004 at 10:23 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXXIII

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You know, Jim Lehrer hasn’t improved given all the experience he has with this.

Bush is standing by his principles and criticizing Putin. At the same time he’s acknowledging he’s an ally in the WoT. Calls him Vladimir. All this is smart. Suggests Bush is in command and sticks to his guns at the same time. Just what Kerry says Bush doesn’t do.

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September 30, 2004 at 10:19 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXXII

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So Kerry would eliminate the use of tactical nukes and developing them because we don’t want other nations to have nukes? What? Well, why don’t we just unilaterally disarm then? Oh, right. That’s what Kerry wanted us to do in the 80s in the face of the Soviet Union.

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September 30, 2004 at 10:16 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXXI

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Kerry has done very poorly in the sense that his arrogance is clear.

But Bush is failing to capitalize on that. He has been repeating his mantra and not moved beyond that.

Both men are performing at an average level. It’s looking very much like a draw at this point.

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September 30, 2004 at 10:14 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXX

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They’re getting mushy. I’d rather they were attacking each other. It’s becoming clear that this should have been 60 minutes. (Not the CBS kind.)

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September 30, 2004 at 10:11 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXIX

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The audience is still quiet. Amazing.

And Stephen Green is bored.

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September 30, 2004 at 10:10 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXVIII

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Kerry says that we can’t send troops into Darfur because they’re Iraq.

Say, senator? What about the French? They’re not doing anything.

I deplore what goes on in the Sudan. But we’re fighting a war, and we need to defend the US first. Let the French lead on this one.

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September 30, 2004 at 10:07 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXVII

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Both candidates seem to have shot their primary bolts. We’re now talking about China and Taiwan, which is a yawner for most voters. I know the new Communist party chief has been rattling his saber, but Communists are very big on rhetoric.

Meanwhile, Kerry is saying we can negotiate with the mad mullahs in Iran. What a rube.

And he’s actually saying that we knew where the North Korean nuclear material is. Um, Bill Clinton was the guy that let this happen senator. We will clean it up, but I’m not sure this is a good thing for you. You’re calling for more bilateral talks with the North Koreans have lied about from the start. Here’s a place the Chinese can help. Why cut them out? Isn’t Kerry the diplomacy guy?

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September 30, 2004 at 10:02 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXVI

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Hitting Kerry with the International Criminal Court is smart. They like that idea in Manhattan, but it doesn’t fly in Peoria.

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September 30, 2004 at 10:00 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXV

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Kerry says he wouldn’t cede the right to protect us. Yet we all now that his own rhetoric cedes that very right to France.

He has actually just mentioned De Gaulle. I cannot believe that.

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September 30, 2004 at 9:57 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXIV

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Kerry is still looking like he thinks he’s better.

Now he’s parsing Saddam and Osama. Kerry doesn’t seem to think that Saddam was our enemy.┬áSo Kerry will defeat Osama and call it good?

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September 30, 2004 at 9:55 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXIII

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Now Bush is saying something new. That Iraq is a central part of the WoT because the terrorists are there.

Flypaper. It works.

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September 30, 2004 at 9:52 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXII

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Kerry seems to think that a long-term presence in Iraq is a bad thing.

Tell me, when do we withdraw the troops from Germany, Japan, and South Korea? Oh wait, Bush is taking troops from Germany but Kerry thinks that’s bad.

And then he playing the oil card. We didn’t need to invade Iraq to get its oil. All we had to do was lift the sanctions. Hell, we owned Kuwait and we gave them their oil back. It’s an assinine argument that the senator is making.

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September 30, 2004 at 9:49 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XXI

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“The Pottery Barn Rule”

If you break it you fix it.

I’m pretty sure if I break something at PB I’ll need to buy it.

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September 30, 2004 at 9:46 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XX

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Kerry mentions Vietnam a third time – “I know what it’s like to lose people in combat.”

He hasn’t mentioned Vietnam by name – do you think he was told not to say it at all, not ever, don’t even think it?

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September 30, 2004 at 9:45 pm

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Liveblogging the First Debate XIX

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Bush is beginning to repeat his talking points, and that’s not good.

(Admittedly, Kerry’s been doing that too, but we expect that from him.)

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September 30, 2004 at 9:42 pm

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